Stihl MS 194 T purchased for $381.59. Harvest entry sits in the "Gardening" category. Purchase channel not yet confirmed (no receipt scanned in). The MS 194 T is a relatively recent Stihl model (launched ~2017), so this was a near-new generation saw.
Stihl MS 194 T
receipts/2022/. Photograph the model + serial off the saw body. Run a
condition check + drain fuel if it hasn't been used in >6 months.
Service log
Community knowledge · MS 194 T
Why a top-handle saw is different
Top-handle saws (T-suffix on Stihl) have the rear handle on top rather than behind the engine, designed so an arborist can hold it one-handed while strapped into a tree harness. Powerful but much easier to lose control of than a conventional rear-handle saw — the body wants to rotate. Most safety guidance is: only use two-handed, keep the saw below shoulder height, never use while on a ladder, and never use without chainsaw chaps + a hard hat with face screen.
Maintenance cadence (same as other two-cycle)
- TruFuel 50:1 premix · skip mixed pump gas (degrades in ~30 days)
- Stihl bar & chain oil (or Husqvarna — interchangeable)
- Stihl spark plug: NGK BPMR7A (slightly different gap than the Husqvarna's BPMR7Y; check the manual)
- Annual shop service: Paul B. Moyer & Sons handles Stihl as well as Husqvarna — same account #9603201 on file
Model references
- Stihl USA · MS 194 T product page ↗
- Stihl USA support · manuals + parts ↗
- r/arborists — search "ms 194 t" ↗
- r/Chainsaw — search "ms 194" ↗
- r/Chainsaw — "Brand new Stihl MS194T with weird sound" ↗
Q&A · the "weird sound" on a cold start
Distilled from the r/Chainsaw thread "Brand new Stihl MS194T with weird sound" ↗. Community advice, not official Stihl guidance — and a new saw under warranty is a dealer-first situation.
Is a strange noise on a brand-new MS 194 T normal — and what causes it?
Symptom (OP): a brand-new MS 194 T makes the sound only when the saw is cold; after a few minutes of cutting it sounds normal.
Most likely cause — the chain dragging at idle. A cold saw idles higher, so a chain that's already creeping at idle drags more before it warms up. Causes: idle set too high, or worn clutch springs. A saw shouldn't drive the chain at idle at all — it's not a disaster, but worth fixing because the slipping clutch builds heat and wears the clutch faster. (u/Okie294life, 9↑)
Known cause + DIY fix — oil-pump worm-gear bushing. From a Stihl Gold-Certified tech: a casting-tolerance issue leaves the brass inner bushing of the oil-pump worm gear rough ("pimples"), which can make the noise. (u/BeardlyGiraffe, 4↑)
- Remove sprocket cover, bar & chain, then the clutch (13 mm, reverse / left-hand thread).
- Remove the sprocket → behind it is a black needle-cage bearing → lubricate it with 2-cycle oil.
- Behind that is the worm gear (white plastic with a brass inner bushing) for the oil pump. Remove it and inspect the bushing; smooth the rough inner surface with Scotch-Brite until shiny (he cuts a strip and spins it in a drill), then lube with 2-cycle oil.
- Reverse the steps to reinstall. Pull the spark plug, insert a piston stop, and torque the clutch to 25 Nm. Refit plug, bar, chain & cover.
Corroboration: another owner reports the identical sound on the rear-handle sibling (MS 194 C-E) — but with no chain slip, suggesting the noise isn't always the clutch. (u/Brilliant-Ad-1746)
My takeaway for this saw: it's new and under warranty — let Paul B. Moyer diagnose it first (the bushing job and an idle/clutch adjustment are both plausibly covered) rather than pulling the clutch myself. The DIY steps are recorded here in case it's wanted out of warranty.
Sibling saws in the shed
- Husqvarna 450e II — heavier 50cc gas saw, for felling + bucking · purchased June 2020 · serviced Aug 2021
- 12" 20V electric mini-saw — light yard work, no fuel needed · purchased Aug 2020 ($148)